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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Brakes/Suspension/Tires/Wheels => Topic started by: twistedhhhdx625 on October 11, 2004, 06:57:00 PM
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every time i stop i hear a popping sound from the front passanger side and i think its either a shock or a strut...my suspension is crap anyways and im planning on redoing the whole thing but i just want to know if its damaging to anything else.
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The popping sound you hear is your mechanics heels as he prepares to do you in. But really, chances are you have a bad strut and it is causing your CV joint to flex. Either way, the mechanic gets happy.
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I hear the same sound and have been since I've owned my car. I replaced the struts and springs but I still hear the popping sound.
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well thats reassuring...lol. i guess its just one of those quirks that we have to deal w/. i also was wondering if it could actually be the control arm itself. is that possible?
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I TOO HAVE HEARD THE SAME SOUND IT CAME UP FOR ME AS A LOWER CONTROL ARM BUSHING STILL IM LOOKING TO FIND OUT WHERE I CAN GET THEM ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEAS? ALAN
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I am having this same problem and I have found the culprit. It is the control arm bushings, or lack there of. The control arm is moving when you brake, forcing the axle to hit inside the tranny. But the big question is:
WHERE IN THE WORLD CAN WE GET THE BUSHINGS????
Have found a website with a lot of universal sizes http://polybushings.com/pages/bushingsbysize.html (http://polybushings.com/pages/bushingsbysize.html) but I don't know the sizes since the bushings are gone.
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I've got an answer for you....
Front lower control arm bushings.
http://www.globalperformanceparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=19221 (http://www.globalperformanceparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=19221)
Here are the trailing arm bushings if anybody needs these..
http://www.globalperformanceparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=19092 (http://www.globalperformanceparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=19092)
I can't find the rear control arm bushings. I have the part number from superpro if you really need that part maybe someone that deals with superpro could order them for you. The part number is (spf103rk)
To the moderator....this might be a good post to make sticky with those links to the hard to find bushings in there.
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Ok, I ordered the bushings, lets hope they work!!! And also, I am going to get the sizes of them so I can find the ones from the other site I linked to above so we can get them CHEAP!
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Thank god i found this thread, i need bushings..... they're like..... gone. Too bad they're out of stock tho
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ya, the place i went to wanted $500 to do it... so now i gotta figure out where to get the bushings, and how to change them myself.
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Hey Yuri! Did you actually find the bushings bad? In one of my cars I found the spot welds separated where the front frame and body come together I had to put the car on jack stands and bring things into alignment with a floor jack and then run several short beads of mig weld to keep it together. It had taken me several looks to find this, I had to scrape a lot of under coating away to see this. Gus.
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Begin lubing the front bushing bolt long before you decide to change them. Its held into the frame by a squarenut. The squarenut is only held into place by a shitty stamped steel cover, it bends out of the way when you put too much stress on the bolt (ie when its rusted a bit). These things are inside the framerail so they're near impossible to hold still.
Ive spun those nuts on all 3 capri's that I've owned. Lubing the threads on it with penetrant really helps out, and can prevent problems. On the ones that have come loose from the cover I've had to weld the stupid nuts into place, thru the tiny access ports behind the bushing. No fun.
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Hey Rocketman! we need more suspension discussions such as those in the 323forum on Nissan Pathfinders. Wouldn't you agree? Gus.
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We could use some more in depth tech discussion but unfortunately most of my knowledge lies under the hood as opposed to behind the wheels. Some of the 323 guys really know what they're doing so I usually go to them if I need help.
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i believe that i've figured out what my popping sound was... i was under my car last night, and i grabbed and pulled a random bar that i could see... and POP, i found the source of my sound. There's a support bar whose bolts came loose, i'm going to tighten it down to see if it stops my problem.
here's the bolt that loosened up
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x298/grantgorgen/Photo0254.jpg (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x298/grantgorgen/Photo0254.jpg)
and this is the other end of said bar
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x298/grantgorgen/Photo0255.jpg (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x298/grantgorgen/Photo0255.jpg)
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Hey Yuri! Did you find bushings? If not, There appears to be a new set on Ebay. At the moment it's at $7.00 Gus.
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hey i think i am having the same problem. it makes a popping/clank sound on the drivers side just as i come to a stop....i have no clue how to do the bushings if thats what it is. any idea how much this would be at a shop?
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the photos are no longer working..
which ones do i need to check?
i get a popping sound right under me a lot now too
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and mine pops the same way... under accel and braking conditions... for the longest time i thought it was the axles....so i put new partshouse axles in.... and it still did it... so i had P&S transmissions here in lexington build me two hardened axles with BF knuckles and and BG cups...it still did it.... so i said if its gonna break its gonna break...
until i got on here, and now it all makes sense... the foward and back movement puts the worn bushings into a bind and when they come out of the bind it pops... whoever figured this out needs some much deserved kudos....
Heres one for ya...ever park the car and get out then like 3 mins later have it pop ? like its settling in its parking space ???? mine does about every time i park... ill get out and light a cigarette and a few moments pass then out of nowhere.... pop... so yes.. finally i know what the popping is ...thanks whoever figured it out....
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and mine pops the same way... under accel and braking conditions... for the longest time i thought it was the axles....so i put new partshouse axles in.... and it still did it... so i had P&S transmissions here in lexington build me two hardened axles with BF knuckles and and BG cups...it still did it.... so i said if its gonna break its gonna break...
until i got on here, and now it all makes sense... the foward and back movement puts the worn bushings into a bind and when they come out of the bind it pops... whoever figured this out needs some much deserved kudos....
Heres one for ya...ever park the car and get out then like 3 mins later have it pop ? like its settling in its parking space ???? mine does about every time i park... ill get out and light a cigarette and a few moments pass then out of nowhere.... pop... so yes.. finally i know what the popping is ...thanks whoever figured it out....
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sorry, my POS puter posted twice....
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mine seems to do like yours, slow turns, stopping like you. mine just starting doing it. i noticed it after i got a new cat on so i just thought it was that not welded good. i checked the welds and no broke off. so it has to be that..but i need photos so i know what ones to look at and change..
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Hey Gost! If you've noticed the different post from the forum, there can be several problems making that noise. I would want to say the ones with the control bushings and tie rod ends had also steering problems that weren't noted in the posts or just weren't noticed at all. Jack up the front end totally and do some yanking on the wheels in different directions, this should show worn bushings. A wheel that is loose when car is on ground is either tie-rod ends or steering box. I'm sure you know these but sometimes we need reminders when things happen to ourselves. Gus
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steering seems fine..just the damn popping sounds.
my wife suggested that i lose weight..LOL
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Hey Gost! Try looking at the seams of uni-body. Mine was found by accident while changing out an axle and carrier bearing on the passenger side. There was about 1/8inch movement going on. There are many possibilities. Gus.
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I also have a sort of clunk when putting a load on the motor, I found that my trans mount had started coming apart where the rubber meets the metal. Could possibly be another reason for the popping, I'm going to check the control arm bushings, and other mentioned info as well.
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Popping after you've parked the car? Might be due to thermal expansion/contraction. Just a possibility.
When I had a popping sound when driving I thought I broke a CV shaft. Whilst it was on the hoist getting replaced the strut tops failed!
You know that black cap looking part above the shock absorber? the only thing holding your front struts to the car are a bunch of ball bearings. No joke! The strut top comes as one piece, (bearing pressed into cast iron housing)
Eventually over time the bearing casing deteriorates leaving the little bb's run free within its former confines, independant of strut fixing.
Just another possibility =)
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Has anybody had success after replacing the bushings? I don't want to buy axles if it's bushings & visa versa. After owning a '92 for a couple weeks I've replaced the ball joints, tie rod end, rotted out sway bar links, new struts, pads, and slotted rotors just for safety reasons. Exact same popping sound. Can't find any loose body joints, but do need CV boots. First things first though. I keep the costs down by doing my own work. Need more responses to the end results of these posts please. I'll check back often.
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Replacing the control arm bushings would be cheaper than replacing both axles. The pedders set cost ~$100 when I replaced mine, though its a pretty involved install process.
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Thanks Rocketman, I was only going to replace the P. side axle where the noise comes from. Looked all over for the bushings-naturally expensive since they aren't around. Noticed the same bolt insert # for a 87-89 topaz(or tracer)was the same but called TRW to check part #'s on the bushings & they won't work. Noticed the other side has been done since the metal is slightly pulled down on the access hole. I'll lube the heck out of it & wait a few then do it again. I know there has to be a ton of interchangeables on these. Bro. had a couple GTX's until he had to get things like a tranny from the Ukraine or something. I'll post after I get this done so others can see if it works.
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ATTENTION EVERYONE, the popping noise is the rubber between the bottom of the coil and the metal tray, the rubber wears down because it is shit, i just found it on my car and changed it and now it doesnt pop. Put your hand under the coil and you will see it will be falling out
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OK I said I'd report back so others can see what possibilities there might be. I fixed the popping, clunking noise @ the front pass. side. I decided to buy a half shaft rather than bushings. When I went to get it aligned I explained in detail to check the lower control arm bushings, if worn they could be causing the axle to hit inside the engine. Turned out ok like I saw also. Go to the "Recalls" section at the top and read the '92 recall on noise up front fix. It tells the procedure for control arms, and other possibilities. I did that & torqued the front bushing. I don't know if that was the cause or the axle half shaft that did it but it's long gone-No more popping.