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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Capri XR-2 89-94 => Topic started by: Gus Kelley on August 29, 2009, 05:53:00 PM
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Hey ICU! My car has stock engine. I have a 2 1/2 inch exhaust from down pipe to rear with a cat and muff. I have a re-mapped comp. mod. Boost controller set at 15lbs. Drilled out intake box. H&R springs. '94xr2 wheels with 195-15-55 tires. Short shifter. I believe at the time I had stock turbo, now have 14/16 hybrid. It's stronger. Stock inter-cooler. 190lph fuel pump. Gus
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im running a brand new NOS ford shortblock for the n/a(high compression)capri mated to a lightly ported B6T head with a cometic gasket and ARP studs, a ported intake mani, ported throttle body, DSM 450cc injectors with a resistor box. ported mitsu TDO5H-14b turbo, progressive hard pipes, FMIC, HKS SSQV BOV, custom intake, HKS VAF adaptor, HKS mushroom filter, custom PCV valve from the supra with a catch can, full urethane mounts and bushings, the pacesetter adj. shortthrow shifter, an ACT sprung disc with a centerforce 2 pp, Aem wideband o2, adjustable FPR, CDAS rotors, goodridge braided steel lines, tokico struts, intrax springs, 5zigen fighter wheels wraped in BFG G force tires,
its a hella fast xr2 and it keeps getting faster... it runs a high 12 in the 1/4 with a good launch. and puts down about 220hp at the wheels... has little interior no front or rear bumpers just covers, no ps, no ac, oh hell thares alot more but i aint got time to type it all ... besides i already sound like an arrogant fuck... ask anyone on here im not... Joe
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good stuff.
rci, how much for one of the stock manifolds with a mitsu flage?
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its easy to do, take and get a stock mani.
(i got one if your needin it) get ya a dsm flange. set the flange on the bottom of the mani as close to centered on the hole in the mani as possible and weld arround the outside and inside with nickel rod. it sets the turbo lower, but the tdo4 hotside is a longer hotside ne ways so a new downpipe is in order... hell its a different flange to DP anyways then grind into the mani to clear the bolts on the flange... here ill post some pics to compare....
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i Know a guy who is willing to make a manifold for us, you can put any flange on it that you want...but the first one will take time due to all the fitting...after that its cake
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my problem is I dont know anyone who could do the welding for me that I would trust to hold up. Did you do the welding on that manifold?
What would you charge for the spare manifold you have with the DSM flange welded in place?
The turbo I have on mine must have been replaced a short time ago. I checked it yesterday for shaft play and it had ZERO shaft play in and out or up and down which really floored me.
I am sure it is do the fact an old lady had it and probably never went into boost. Since the turbo is in such great shape I would rather sell it off to someone who needs a stock unit and start off right with a turbo that can get me in the deep 13's without a problem.
There have been pleanty of DSM's in the high 12's with the 14b in their heavy ass 3400+ lb cars. I am sure with our light weight that it would have the balls to get into the deep 13's and high 12's without killing the turbo.
just my .02
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the guy i found who welds works for the city making crap and does things on his own as well. he actually is currently making control arms and suspension stuff for the lower class WV off road racing. i have seen his sand rail he built with a VQ engine in it and when given the time his work is nice. i do not think he would charge too much just to do the flange.
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ok im just gonna let the cat outta the bag ...
making what i have is a PITA.. you need it welded with nickel rod and in order to do that someone needs to have a tig welder...
im just a stiffler on boost lag, and i wanted it done this way to reduce lag as much as i could ..
A MUCH SIMPLER WAY....
look closely at this picture....
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better yet this one...
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thats our manifold and turbo.. mounted on a
d-series civic i built a couple years ago...
in order to mount this you egg shape the center hole of the mani upward to fit.. allong with the top outter two in 45* outwards directions then it slides right on....
now reverse engineer this for a moment...
you buy a d series tubular or log mani, and egg shape the center hole downwards and the two top outters inward at 45* angles and a d series mani will fit right on one of our engines... theese are cheap and plentiful on ebay, and all over the net... most are flanged for t3-t4 turbos but you can buy adaptor plates to run mitsubishi turbos if you wish.. now most of theese will also allow you to run external wastegates and by default will flow more air than our stock manifolds (also increase boost lag) due to the hondas head desighn flowing more air than ours
(ours flow about 180cfm where most d series flow arround 220cfm) this is easier and will yield more power in the long run...
i know, i know, im too smart for my own good...
ive tried alot of shit and me and chris do research constantly to come up with this crap...
be good and happy tuning...Joe
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dont necessarily need a TIG welder. A normal arc welder can do NiRod fine, but the trick is to superheat the manifold where you are welding it... oxy-acetylene works perfect there.
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true an arc welder will weld with welding rod but the tig just does such a nice clean job...
just use a civic mani.. with a external wastegate and a t3-t4.. and make a rocket...
(no pun intended) LOL
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i think he has 3 welders at his house..i have no idea what one is what
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I just want a more common turbo that has enough balls to get into the 13's with ease. That and are more common to find parts for.
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Hey ICU! When time and money allows it, change to a hybrid 14/11 turbo. Start putting your dimes and quarters aside, getting ready when your turbo gives out. Gus
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you want an 11 coldside, ill give you one if you ship it... you will need to find a good 11 wheel...
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i agree..i been wanting to use a 16G since i got the car..for the simple fact they can run all day at the boost we can run on these cars. 16PSI is nothing for them...
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16psi on a 16g is like our stock turbo's at 4psi. They can do it all day long without a flinch. The e316g really doesnt wake up till about 18psi which is what I ran on my last GVR4.
They are great turbo's and if we could get someone (gostlrs buddy) to make some nice log manifold's with mitsu flanges we would be golden.
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But a 16g at 16psi is flowing much more air then our turbos at 16psi. They sell decent manifolds for miatas on ebay with mitsu flanges but there top mount and I dont know if that would fit under our hoods. .sure would be cool. Im in the process of building my manifold but its a tubular equal length for a twin scroll 16g. . i'll post some pics soon.
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i posted a bunch of info on mitsu turbos from the dsm forums... its on here somewhere... and it shows the flowrate and efficient psi of each mitsu turbo on it...
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yeah I know they flow different rates. thats why I compared our turbo at 4 psi to a 16g at 16 psi.
The 14b or a small 16g would be good fun on these cars. I am sure Joe has a fun time everyday on the way to work.
I am enjoying mine on stock boost with just a intake and HKS bov making suit harmony. cant wait till the ecm gets here so I can crank it up to a fun level.
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shit, i wish yall coulda been there on my way home from work today... there was a dark blue wrx sti, with some 20something driving it about 2 cars behind me.. so i got over and kinda waited for traffic to go by and sure enough here he comes..
now remember my car is running 17-18psi on a 14b with the wastegate open to atmosphere... so when i tromp down and reach full boost, and the wastegate opens. its dumping out a 4 inch pipe directed straight at the ground under my motor..
aka.. it sounds like a boosted nascar car.. like you wish you had earplugs loud...
ne way he gets to about my rear 1/4 and i downshift to 3rd.. full boost.. open wastegate.. i pull about 3 cars on him instantly... followed by 405cfm at 17psi coming out an hks ssqv bov...
his eyes and expression went from "look at this clown' to "WTF" in about 2.3 seconds...
he fell back about 5 cars and stayed there till he turned off about a mile down the road...
and here i am saying to myself "yea now thats why i built this car" ... i even had to pull out the KING cd and play track 3 (whatcha know about that) at about volume 30 just to be an ass... but yes i love this car and i thorouly enjoy the ride to and from work every day...Joe
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oh shit, waz up corey.. didnt see your post at first... yea, icu.. me and coco are friends on facebook.. hes gonna be the first to catch me i have a feeling...his build is eerily similar to mine but hes gonna try a big turbo not the little bro that im using...
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nice kill!
I thought you were on a 16g.... man a 12.80 on a 14b is really good. How much to get me one of those turbo manifold's made? You really have me wanting a 14b turbo.
going to try and get out this weekend to get my resistor box and get it installed. also going to try and get the fuel pump rewire done and strip down my gvr4 wheels.
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im telin ya a civic d seies mani would yeild more in the future... it will prolly be t3t4 but an adaptor plate aint much to mitsu....
think im tossin a 2300lb car down the road
its a little 1.6 not a 2.0 405 cfm is alot of air ... and high compression im running 9.2-1 comp where stock there 7.9-1...big difference
on the same turbo, with the same support mods, and the same boost, my car is gonna make like
30 more hp than a b6t with low compression
but ill hit detonation before a 7.9 motor will
im limited by my fuel grade more than yall
i gotta run the 93 shell v-power if im gonna run pump gas...period... 92 will detonate....
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so the d seires has the same bolt pattern as us?
I guess I will just max this this turbo out and build up a manifold and turbo combination till then.
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hey joe!! Get your little issue figured out?? Love the STI story, my buddy has a WRX running on stage 2 at 18psi and its atleast as fast as a stock STI and he beats me when we race from a dig just because of the AWD factor but from A roll my car pulls harder and I allways win (http://graemlins/big-smile.gif) As for a d-series mani. ICU I have one decent if your interested.
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oh yea, it was a bad FPR solinoid, it was stickin closed.. and not lettin the FPR see the boost signal... i just removed it completely now the FPR runs directly from the intake manifold and what a difference...i also advanced the timing back to 12* BTDC... smartened it right back up ... i actually had to turn my fuel pressure down a bit....but the wideband stays alot smoother through the revs all the way to redline...
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will that manifold fit the stock turbo ?
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negative T3/T4
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BUT... on ebay they make adaptor plates for a mitsubishi mani... to be used with a t3-t4, and if you flip it over it will adapt a t3-t4 flange to hang a mitsubishi turbo...then you got what i got with a better flowing manifold...fun fun..
hey corry.. what do you want for that mani?? just out of curosity...
do you need anything for your build that you would be willing to trade???
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How about a nice resistor box + $50 (http://graemlins/big-smile.gif)
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Hey coco know what these are??
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Yep i know what they are. I was just trying to do some trading with my buddy joe and I dont really have the time to go search the junkyard.
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well I have two extra and Joe said you may be interested in one. I sent you a pm so let me know what you decide.
I may be sending Joe one as well.