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kelly270

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« on: July 17, 2010, 03:29:00 AM »

well the motor arrived today, now the fun stuff starts. I've started a list of what will need to be done... anyone got a line on a good bank that will loan money on a song and promise??
 
even came with the turbo and exhaust manifold!!
 
 
shoot it even gots red spark plug wires!!
the tear down starts tommorrow, we will see whats inside and start gathering info on how to get to 250 bhp, any input will be appreciated. I will start with getting the block hottanked and bored out. Is the 323 motor a short nose crank?
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 03:41:00 AM »

big carshow in town today, might have to drive by a couple times with the bov blowing off and spitting!!
they will be impressed!
I thought I'd share that I drove over to seattle yesterday for a total of 14 hours driving, during that time, i didn't see another capri!!!
I did see a group of really nice supra turbo's, like 10 of them all driving together, kind of cool to see any speciality autos like that all together.
I'm really sorry to not be able to have been to the show this year to see all the capri's together.
Really sorry to not to have been able to meet and talk to you guys that have really ramped up your cars.
I would have liked to have rode in your car, Joe. That is what I am gunnin for.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 05:58:00 AM »

yes a 323gt motor would be a small nosed crank
along with early 91 capris...
a 323 motor actually has thicker rods than a capri engine...
the engine originally had thicker rods. but when the miata was introduced the miata thinner rod superceded the thicker ones. the newer b6t rods are "miata rods"
my car has miata rods in it..
and im close to 250hp... i think with a mitsu 16g turbo you could make 250 with a b6t...
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 06:14:00 AM »

you can ask josh or rocketman they have both witnessed the power...lol
its actually a big power to weight hog... if someone rides with me wether my 120lb wife, or my buddy bryan whose about 220 i can notice a difference...

heres some pics...

 

 
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 07:07:00 AM »

Tell me about it. Our small engines make a lot of power for their size but they hate pulling a lot of weight around. Especially for me, my car weights about 1850lb empty but I had 700-750lb worth of people in it. Its definitely different than just my 145lb self in it.

Loaded with people it feels like... a capri    
pulling a trailer.

Also I must ask... why dont you guys swap to BPT's more often instead of using B6T's? They seem a bit better for the Capri's "high" curb weight. If I ever get ahold of a decent Capri thats probably what I will do.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 08:30:00 AM »

Ive wondered why people don't go for the BPT more often myself... its such a worthwhile swap

Joe - The 323 GT's as far as I know got the thin rods - it was the GTX / awd cars that got the thicker rods.

Kelly- post pics when you get the bottom end apart i'd like to see the rods. You said the motor came from a 323 GT or GTX?
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 10:32:00 AM »

GT and GTX  big rods...yanked them out of both cars.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 10:40:00 AM »

according to the guys at "JDM Racing Motors", yes, that is correct, racing motors, it came from a 89 323 gt.
Yeah Joe, I want to be glued to the f#@**%ing seat, like Josh said he was agfter riding in your car!
Your car is what I'm after. The speed that is. I could have sworn that I read that you sold your car for $5000.00!!??
Man, for what I've spent, I could have easily just given you $5000 and been done with it!!!
The only consolation I will have is: I will still have a decent B6T motor when I'm done.
Shit, the car runs fine and pulls like a SOB when I am running full boost, (16 PSI). I made a new Infinity piss his pants the other day.
I swear he got out and cried when  I pulled away from him the other day!
Bottom line is- I want to build a motor and still want to drive the car while I'm building it!
I'm sure that I can find a XR2 with a blown motor to put muy  current motor in, when Im finished. Then sell the other one for pennies on the dollar!
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 10:19:00 AM »

ive had the car since may 2007 and its seen a total of 7 months downtime ...i drive it to work every night.... i was very "unprepared" when the last motor popped.. had to save the money and do the work.. it took about 1,000 and 7 months from blowing it up to taking it to work aggain...

the motor is a N/A capri block w/snub nose crank
stock block, pistons, rods, bearings..
the head is from a pevious b6t and has stock cams...its held together with ARP headstuds and has a cometic HG to hold the pressure...
my comp.rto is approx 9.2-1

 im currently running a reflanged b6t mani hanging a mitsubishi 14b turbo that makes about 405cfm @15psi and dumps into a "reflanged to tdo5" corksport divorced downpipe which dumps its 20psi to atmosphere at wg opening...
at full boost it gets very loud...
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »

oh and rocket, ive had both engines and the 323gt has thicker rods than my capris first or second motor... there not the monsters from the BPD, but definately thicker than the miata rods..
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »

heres a pic of the different rods

the first one with no piston is a bpd rally car engines rod, the center one is a miata rod. and the third from the right is the late 80s b6t 323gt/gtx rod....
 
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 03:01:00 PM »

Okay my mistake. I thought only the GTX's got the thicker rods.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 03:40:00 PM »

Yeah, i was out pricing gasket sets and shit today. I really wish I knew what the motor was, I'm confused after reading the reciept. You guys think there is a difference in like buying a gasket set off ebay, and going to the parts store??
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 03:42:00 PM »

One more question, what injectors should I be looking for. Is there anything that will fit, for an upgrade, that can picked up at the junk yard???
How about fuel pump? is the stock one needing replacement?
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 07:39:00 PM »

I'll offer a word of caution against the eBay gasket sets... I'd use everything but the head gasket... I had issues with a cheap eBay HG ended up with a massive oil leak. Poor construction
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