TeamCapri

Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Brakes/Suspension/Tires/Wheels => Topic started by: rich on July 18, 2003, 09:43:00 AM

Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: rich on July 18, 2003, 09:43:00 AM
I'm looking to replace the crappy BICYCLE wheels that Mercury decided would be fine for a 2,500lb car....

So, what combinations will work on the stock suspension and what combos will be a definite "No-No"?

I was hoping to get away with 16 X 7" wheels and then running 225/45 R16's.  I fear that either the wheel or the tires will rub when going over bumps or turning....  Anyone running 16's on stock?  Feedback?

If that's too big, can I get away with 15X6.5" rims and 205's or should I go with the 195/50 R 15's???

Any feedback is MUCH appreciated.  It looks like the suspension in the rear is SO close to the tires that it'll slash anything of decent size I though on there.

I don't wanna be "BLING-BLINGIN" with 20's or anything tacky, I just want better handling/more comfort.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on July 18, 2003, 10:27:00 AM
15's are good. Also increase the 14's tires to 195/50/14 will give you little more tire width.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: tru on August 27, 2003, 05:26:00 AM
The 225/45 R16's wont work I tried them. I am using 15 x6.5 34mm offset (94 300Z) with 195 50 15
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Capri_chick on August 27, 2003, 05:43:00 AM
Sorry he actually meant 205/45/16s...we tried the 205/50/16s...no dice! I can't believe DTD actually sold them to us, ugh! We are now running 205/50/15s, and are very happy with them. although the wheel gap is still horrendous and fugly  (http://tongue.gif)  If we don't try and save for a 300zx vert or something else, we may lower her in the future. Not sure though...
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on September 16, 2003, 03:23:00 PM
You can fit 17's on the capri. I did! I just mounted a set of 17x7 38mm offset fondmetal rims with 205/40/17 Nankang NS-1 HR rated Radials. They fit like a glove,and make the car stick to the road. There is no rubbing or suspension problems. The fitment on the rear is very close though. I will post a pic as soon as I can take a few. The rims and tires were bought at Discount tire/America's Tire Co.'s website. http://www.tire.com (http://www.tire.com)
Hope this helps a few with what can be ran on the capri!!!
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: zxtunerdotcom on September 16, 2003, 04:45:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Capri_chick:
Sorry he actually meant 205/45/16s...we tried the 205/50/16s...no dice!  
that's the size i wanted to try! what offset wheel were you putting them on? was it hitting the spring perch or the strut body?
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Capri_chick on September 16, 2003, 04:55:00 PM
The spring perch...offset +40.

Good to hear that 17s do fit. They weren't even an option in our case since we do not plan on lowering the car, and I personally do not usually like 17s + stock suspension. I have 17s on my lowered Mustang, and its STILL too high, hehe   ;)
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on September 16, 2003, 05:34:00 PM
Good thing my 17s are sitting lowered. You want to be careful with large wall 17s without wheel spacers you will notice the tirer rubbing against the perch.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Capri_chick on September 17, 2003, 05:30:00 AM
No pics yet?  :confused:
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on September 17, 2003, 06:29:00 AM
Ya hehe, getting car a few layers of wax to protect the new paint job durin the storm.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on September 17, 2003, 08:16:00 AM
here are links to see a few quick pics
http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul1.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul1.jpg)
http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul2.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul2.jpg)
http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul3.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/pak7176/paul3.jpg)

how can you post the pics on this site? Also how do you post a pic w/ signature?
 Paul
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on September 17, 2003, 08:20:00 AM
Website is acting funny
if the above linls say not available,type in just the address.
http://www.geocities.com/pak7176 (http://www.geocities.com/pak7176)
Paul
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on September 17, 2003, 08:29:00 AM
In reply to Anthony on the wheel spacers. I didn't need spacers and the rear wheels are not rubbing on the spring perches. 205/40/17 are very low profile on the rim, I still have at least a fingers widthor two between the rim/tire and the spring perch.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on September 17, 2003, 10:15:00 AM
Paul im not using them either. Some people do for that added peace of mind.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Capri_chick on September 17, 2003, 10:39:00 AM
Paul is your car lowered? If not, good choice on rims that appear to REALLY fill the wheelwell! Looks great  (http://smile.gif)

Did you just buy that Capri? I saw it listed on Ebay several times recently.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on September 19, 2003, 02:20:00 AM
CapriChick
I bought it a couple of months back from a local car dealership trying to get rid of it. As far as I know it has never been on Ebay. No, It's not lowered, but sooner or later it will when I get more funds. Thanks for the complements, I like your Capri as well. The paint color and wheels make it look like a new car and not a 13 yr old one.  :D
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Capri_chick on September 19, 2003, 05:48:00 AM
Thanks for the compliments   (http://smile.gif)   Your car was definetely on there twice...once reserve not yet met, and then relisted...they were the exact same "Before" pictures that you have on your site, and I remember being suprised that it was a NA because of the wing.

 I actually just took a second to search for it, but I think Completed Items can only be searched for two weeks...if you know the seller's Ebay name you could probably find it.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on March 11, 2004, 09:13:00 AM
I have a set of 94 tail lights on the way to replace my 91-93 style.  I just wanted to compliment that they look good on that white Capri Paul.  I also have 17s that I will be having mounted within the month, I want to MAKE SURE winter and snow is gone.  My offset on my 17's are 40mm.  I will be doing some testing that's for sure.  I would be willing to go with a .25" spacer but I would rather not.  I have tokico struts and ground control coilovers so I should be able to set it up right on top of that tire.  I hope.  :cool:
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 12, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
Cory,
 I appreciate the comment on the Capri. The 17's I have are 40mm offset so you should not have to use a spacer. It was a close fit but you can get a couple of fingers inbetween the rim/tire and the suspension. I put the 94 taillights/center section and a 94 xr2 spoiler on it. The lights have a little melting damage on the inside but it is not very noticable. I am thinking of painting the black portion of the taillights white like the rest of the car. What do you think? I saw another thread that you plan on using an eclipse body kit on your capri? What year? If I can borrow my mom-in-law's digital camera I plan on taking a few more pics for Anthony to post. Mainly of the sunvisor DS/PS lcd monitors and the in dash am/fm/cd/dvd player, and a few closer detailed shots that what I first sent. Next project is new struts and lowered spring, then possible some type of body kit and a new white paint job.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on March 12, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
Paul-
   No problem.  Nope that wasn't me with the body kit ideas.  Check those other posts.  Hmmmm painting that black part, I might have to photoshop some pictures when I get home and see what it looks like.  I don't think I have ever seen anybody do that with those lights.  I have an XR2 so I already had a spoiler, so I would have to decide if I would want to hunt down another spoiler or not.  Wouldn't mind the F40 style like Anthony has on his.

Ohh yea, and so you have 40mm offset and you are ok?  I only saw a little problem with the rears, but I didn't have the tire I am going to use on the rim at the time, I had a 45 profile tire on there that came with the rims.  Does the rim stick out at all or are they inside the wheel well?
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 12, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
Cory,
  You will have to use 40 series tires for it to work correctly. I have 205/40/17's on the 17x7 40mm offset wheels.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 12, 2004, 05:20:00 PM
forgot what else I was going to say. My wheels are flush with the edge of the fenders. If I lower the car the tires will tuck right in w/o any problems.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on March 13, 2004, 08:21:00 AM
Yea I will be using 205/40/17's when they are mounted.  That 45 profile tire just came with two of the tires when I bought them.  OK sweet I just want them to tuck so that should be perfect!  Thanks for all the info.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 26, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
I just ordered some H&R Springs from the tire rack for $198. shipped.  Also plan to call Tokico Gas strut Co. and order premium struts from the company.  They have another overstock special price sale for the front/rear struts for the Capri. $39.00 a piece + shipping. List price was $128. a piece. The sale is good till 03/30/04. I can't wait to see what the old car looks and drives like with the new set up. It is riding kinda rough with the original struts w/65,000 miles
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on March 26, 2004, 06:55:00 AM
Paul, yea I'm sure you will like the set up.  I went back and forth for about 3 months whether to go the coilover way or the H&R springs for tirerack.com.  I love the ability to adjust my ride heighth (is that spelled right?) 4".  You'll have to let me know how the ride and 1.5" drop goes.  Before and after pics of course   :cool:  

Anthony has the exact setup I do.  Both have Tokico Struts and Ground Control Coilovers.  I have some pictures up on Cardomain too.   93 XR2 with Coilovers (http://www.cardomain.com/id/2nerfixxdotcom)
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 26, 2004, 07:04:00 AM
Cory leave the last "h" off and it is spelled right. I will definitely send before/after pics once they are on. Also am working on painting the 94 taillights white as we speak. Just got off the phone with tokico and ordered the struts. I would like coil-overs but don't have the $$ for them. Its hard enough having to sneak the struts and H&R's by my wife w/o her knowing(approval).
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on March 31, 2004, 04:50:00 AM
Cory,
  Painted the taillights white and they look good. Got the spring in yesterday and am waiting for the struts.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on March 31, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
Hey Paul-
   I wanna see those before/after pics.  I think I might be interested in posting those on my Capri site too.  I can imagine how excited you are to get the rest of your suspension, I just couldn't wait.  Although I waited another month or so to get it all installed because of salty streets, I was still excited.  Well let me know how that setup goes.  See ya
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on April 01, 2004, 03:27:00 AM
soon as I get a my hands on a digital camera I'll send you some pics
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: pmpsht on April 01, 2004, 04:22:00 AM
Sounds good Thanks.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: junior on April 09, 2004, 06:48:00 PM
How about some 18's.Just put some on my 91 and they look awsome. they ride great needed to put a little bit of spacing in the rear but no problem with them at all. Will be getting some h&r's soon because they still have a gap. I'm riding on 215-35-18 tires, I'll be posting some pictures this weekend.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on April 10, 2004, 02:24:00 AM
You going to get the speedo recalibrated? With 18" wheels, when you car says your doing 60 mph you will actually be doing 66 mph.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: junior on April 10, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
I,m not going to worry about the speedo to much especially if going faster than what it says, it would be diffrent if I were going slower but as long as I can keep up with traffic I'm cool with that.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on April 10, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
Thats cool, figure i let you know though. Didnt what to hear the story on how you were doing 63-65 in a 60 but the cop nailed you for 68-70. hehe.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: capri303 on May 02, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
The wheels don't really have anything to do with it. It's the size of the tires. You could put 20's on and not throw off the speedo if you feel like running on rubberbands....
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: STE_6000 on May 02, 2004, 12:58:00 PM
Ya i know its not the rims them selves, but the proper tire size needed will yield about that speed difference.
Title: Rubbing tires on stock suspension????
Post by: Paul G. on May 04, 2004, 02:51:00 AM
Cory,
 Just sent you the pic of the 94 taillights painted white. Also sent updated photos to anthony to post in the gallery section.
                      P