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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Non-Capri Usable Car Parts => Topic started by: Paul G. on January 06, 2004, 10:00:00 PM
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Will the dual fixed headlight conversion for an early model miata work on the capri? Has anyone tried them? They look about the same size. It would look good if they do fit. Any ideas guys and gals?
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Where would someone go to see what these look like?
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CapriTypeR has a link to his pic page and it has a pic of the lights on it. It is on the forum somewhere....
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The pic that I have is of a custom job on a Miata, but it is the same idea:
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/b6b0ad79/bc/Miata-Capri+Headlight+mod/__tn_/MVC-081S.jpg?phA7n__ArKMiesya)
And again, for those of you who see a red X, the pictures are located here:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/magnumsdaddy (http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/magnumsdaddy)
------Russ
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that kinda looks strang
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I agree. I was wondering if some company had manufactured something that looked a bit cooler? BTW< does anyone know if the sealed beams for our Capris can be had with the bluish white fake HID treatment?
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Yes! The "blue lights" are available for our cars. I have a set on my "racer". Check ebay under "diamond cut headlights". There are two different types of these bulbs, and it is important that you get the correct one! The best one has a reflector over the bulb. In other words, when you look at the headlight, you cannot see the halogen bulb, because there is a reflector directly over it, reflecting the light back into the headlight.
The other headlight does not have this extra reflector. Instead, when you look at the headlight, you can see the halogen bulb directly. This stlye does not increase your nighttime visibility, in fact, it seems to diminish it.
You just need to find a set of lights of the correct size-I believe our lights are 4X6, but I do not remember for sure.
------Russ
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Cool! Gotta go find that for sure!
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i have h4's in mine very easy conversion the are super white and bright
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I'd like to ask for a bit of advice. I searched around a bit on the web and found that the 4x6 sealed beam could be replaced with either a diamond cut blue lens or a projector beam. The projector beam is more money. Would it be signifigantly better? I'm trying to accomplish two different things here. My mom is 67. She's sharp, but can't see well to drive in the dark. I'd like to improve her lights. For my own car, I want blue headlights! Does anyone understand the performance difference between projector beams and diamond cut lenses? Do DCs toss light wider, while PBs throw it further? I'm sure either could be blue with the right set of H4 bulbs... Also, are Xenon and H.I.D the same thing? That's better than Halogen, right? I'll bet ZXTuner would know all this stuff!
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There's another style of quad projection headlights for the 90-97 Miata's. They're made by Brainstorm. I'm getting some this summer and fitting them to my car. Since the Miata used a sealed beam, the plugs will be the same. Just a little metal work and they should fit.
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slight problem there. yes they are sealed beams but different plugs. the miata uses a 7" round unit where the capri uses 4x6 rectangular version. different plug pin setup. that also means the bracets will be to wide and may be to tall. im pretty sure it will be to wide. you will also need new connecters and to cut the wiring harness they give you and mod it with the one you buy from the local store. its deff a project worth messing with though.
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I know the difference between the round hole and the square hole. I'll have to check again but I thought that all the bulbs in sealed beams are the same and therefore have the same plug-ins. If not then the wiring is simple since you only have a signal, power, and ground wire... The last time I looked at the Miata headlights, they were taller than the Carpi's, but there's more plastic housing around the Capri's. You might also want to take a look at the kit for a better idea of the part geometry. I'm sure it'll be quite a project. I guess I'll see if I'm wrong when I try to put them in.
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ya the light in a couple inches taller. the sealed beam lights have different connections on them, some have a prong that are on a slant or horizontal or vertical. some have the power where another would have ground. im not sure if that is the case for the miata to capri, i know the probe and the car share the same lighting system. they are safe bets. now they do make different dual beam lamps for the probe that you might find to be a easier conversation task to do with the capri. they also seem to cost less. some are pop up lights others are open areas with plexy glass covers for the openings.
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Do you know where I might find some headlight conversions like that for the Probe? I tried looking online but could only find the fixed ones. I'm sure the mounting would be a lot closer for Probe to Capri. I was just going with the parts I could actually find.
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Good question, use to know 3 sites now they are not around, guessing the decline of probe parts for probe cars. now I can only find 1 fixed version.
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Bump at the request of capri303
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Thanks for the bump. I was reading up on the low profile headlight conversions on a Ford Probe forum and they were buying some lights from Pepboys to make their own kit. Has anyone looked into doing this before? I'm planning on making a trip to Pepboys this week sometime to see what I can find.
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Ya I was actualy. But Im research good lamps. Look at hella or piaa for housings. The local ones are cheap. blazer and other type companies. I want a new look, but last thing I want to do is sacrifice my light output for it.
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What kind of lights are you going to use(fog lights, driving lights, etc)? I was thinking that maybe they had some kind of 4 light set that was used for things like headlight conversions. The people on the Probe forum talked about buying Hella lamps from Pepboys.
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thinking driving lights of course
fog lights just dont give the need spread and distance.
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I thought that maybe you could use a fog light for the low beam since they have a wider spread and the top half of the beam is covered. Then you could have a driving light for the high beam to shine farther ahead.
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good point. i guess it will have to be trial and error.
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I just don't know where to start with making my own kit. Once I get some lights they'll probably just sit in my room until someone else shows me what to do. I guess the first step would be getting the lights. Then making a housing, then wiring. For some reason that sounds so easy not that I've typed it. Anyone want to help me develope the projection headlight kit?
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First step is to get the proper lights. then setup how they will sit. then to build a brace for it, easier said then done from most.
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The hardest part seems to be making a mount that allows you to adjust the headlights without taking the lights out. I want to make a plastic surround for the lights too. Do you know where I could get an example of the lights I'd need to use?
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Hey do you like this look? (http://www.stephencollins.net/elan/main1.jpg)
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Heh, I wish the Capris looked just a bit more like their inspiration! So purdy :D
I like the dual headlamp look, there is a kit for Miatas out there, I think its $400 or something. Updated look, and retains that sexy popup appearance.
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Those headlights are actually what I want mine to look like. That's why I'm trying to make a plastic housing for them. I just need to get some lights that will work and figure out a design for mounting them.
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you may have to invest in fiberglass or powdercoated metal. plastic may metal due to the laps heat it will make.
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I think I just found the driving lights that brainstorm uses in their miata low pro headlight kits. http://www.bestdarnparts.com/hella1300.html (http://www.bestdarnparts.com/hella1300.html)
I also found that brainstorm sells a replacement relay for the low pro kit. Do you think that I could use this relay and just change the hookups to whatever I need ot fit the capri? Or would the relay be totally useless to me?
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good question. you would need to go to techcapri.com and see i our wiring matches that of the miata. I would think due to the lack of technical advances in lighting at that time that the miata would have the same wiring as the capri as the probe had, but that is where the trial and error comes in.
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I found an easier way to make a headlight kit by using PIAA 980 Series Super White Driving/Ion Crystal Fog Light Kit. They're kind of expensive and now discontinued... figures. They have a driving light and fog light connected together. Then you'd just have to worry about wiring.
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hella makes a nice 90mm headlamp projection unit that has a hi/low option using a H9 bulb, nice and small only being less then 4" tall and 5" wide and the bulb it self is smaller and the rest could be hidden behind the body.
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Do you know the part number for those or where I could find them? I went out looking at fog/driving lights today to get an idea of what was out there. I might actually get some of the angel eyes driving lights and wire the outer halo to my parking lights.
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I take halo if the lights are good. like i mentioned im not gonna loose lighting for the look, sealed beams alone are terrible for the car.
The light model is 90mm headlamp module. thats the name, used for custom headlamp installs. The high beam unit is 68136 and the low beam version is 68137 and the fog lamp version is 68142 all using a h9 bulb.
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Wow, I never knew anything like that existed. It looks like you can buy everything for a headlight coversion except the housing. I just need to decide whether I want to make my own wiring to use the angel eyes or if I just want to use the 90mm...
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i really like and would want to use the 90mm, but the h9 bulb is a odd bulb and would restrict any high wattage upgrades.
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The H9 really is a weird bulb. It looks like you can upgrade the 90mm lights to HID or Xenon, so you could get better bulbs for them. I just don't have the money for that.
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correct, reason i didnt bother to list it, to much almost 3-4x more. h9 is a odd bulb just like the xr2 fog lamp using the h2.
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miata fixed flush mount headlights:
http://www.midtennmiata.com (http://www.midtennmiata.com)
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The prices on those kits is outrageous. You can buy most of those driving lights they use for $60 a pair. Then you'd probably have to rewire them to work on the capri's wire harness.