thanks, I have a lot of friends who are machinists, and we have a machine at work that I've used a few times. So pretty much most turbo upgrades will consist of fab'in a new or, at the very least different adaptor, the the rest is just piping, corretct? Man, I wish someone round here could bend me up a different exhaust manifold, like a custom header for a decent price. the only I've founds for our cars is around $800+. It's nice now at work, when i became part of the maint dept, it opened up doors. Now I'm welding and using the different machines. Kind of cool for an old fart!!!