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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Brakes/Suspension/Tires/Wheels => Topic started by: xr2capri06 on March 02, 2009, 11:44:00 AM

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: xr2capri06 on March 02, 2009, 11:44:00 AM

People on teamcapri says ground-control makes coilovers for capri's, I went on the site and didnt see a set for a 92 xr2? is there another car that has the same set up that im not aware of??

any info will help.

Thanks

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Gostlrs on March 02, 2009, 12:04:00 PM

i do not remember seeing any coil overs while i been looking but i have seen some lowering springs

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: xr2capri06 on March 02, 2009, 01:58:00 PM

yeah i found lowering springs but for 299, And Ive seen people on here with capri's with a ground-controll set up.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Gostlrs on March 02, 2009, 02:23:00 PM

http://www.gripmotorsports.com/vl~pn~Mercury-Capri-0.html (http://www.gripmotorsports.com/vl~pn~Mercury-Capri-0.html)

only 200 there....

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: xr2capri06 on March 02, 2009, 02:25:00 PM

is that a ledgit site? ever order from there?

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Phillip on March 02, 2009, 04:20:00 PM

The 323 kit is known as working with our cars but my experience is that they are for just dropping your car if you want good handling then the stock kit isn’t the way to go. I believe H&R http://hrsprings.com/scripts/appguide.php?Mode=Application+Guide&SubMode=Find2&Year=1986&ModelID=263&q=1986%20|%20MAZDA%20|%20323 (http://hrsprings.com/scripts/appguide.php?Mode=Application+Guide&SubMode=Find2&Year=1986&ModelID=263&q=1986%20|%20MAZDA%20|%20323)

offers lowering springs if all you want is to lower it. The problem arises when you go negative, if the spring kit doesn’t fully extend to take up the extension of the strut extended length it may not come down on compression to seat properly to seat the springs and bind. This will have severe consequences on the handling properties of your car. Somewhere I have a list of parts and CAD drawings to properly use this kit (Mazda 323) with our cars. If you want I can e-mail pictures of my suspension to see how it looks. I will tell you after about $1500 and 2 years of playing with it I do have a very fine handling car!

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: xr2capri06 on March 02, 2009, 06:15:00 PM

Coilover Conversion kit, 86-89 Mazda 323

is that the one that will work?

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on March 02, 2009, 11:40:00 PM

ground control has coilovers that work with the capri. its the mazda 89 year ones. i have them on my car. its the same struts used between the cars. this is not by any means, a good picture, but you can see the coilovers on my capri.

  (http://teamcapri.com/ownerscapris/ste_6000/ste_6000-10.jpg)

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: pmpsht on March 03, 2009, 02:45:00 AM

I also ran the Ground Control setup and it was stiff but handled very well.  Anthony you ran the Tokico's like me as well right?  So that setup together will give you a stiff ride but takes on ramps like no other  ;)

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: xr2capri06 on March 03, 2009, 05:04:00 AM

ok cool thanks for the help. so the 1989 mazda stuff works?

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on March 03, 2009, 12:27:00 PM

i didnt think it was to stiff, but handles like a gem. a lot of things lend itself from the 89 mazda, the engine. suspension. turbo system. i think the frame itself.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: JackRobot on March 25, 2009, 10:42:00 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-93-Mercury-Capri-Adjustable-Lowering-Coilovers_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q 7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem230331549238QQitemZ230331549238QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-93-Mercury-Capri-Adjustable-Lowering-Coilovers_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem230331549238QQitemZ230331549238QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Found these on e-bay.   ;)

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on March 25, 2009, 12:24:00 PM

nice, what are the make of them?

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: sterling94capri on March 25, 2009, 03:18:00 PM

Will they fit my 94 xr2? Or is the 91-93 that different?

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Rocketman on March 25, 2009, 03:40:00 PM

I dont think they'd have a problem fitting. Its likely going to be a rough ride.

FWIW I think they're nearly identical to a set of 95 civic coilovers, you can pick them up for like $15 on ebay which is retarded. Hopefully these are good build.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: sterling94capri on March 26, 2009, 04:08:00 AM

Thanks Rocketman, so will any 95 civic spring or coilover work, or is there something I need to look for when shopping for these parts?

ROCKY

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: JackRobot on March 26, 2009, 09:11:00 AM

I would buy the ones from the link I posted, and not honda springs, Not a good idea to mix and match parts unless your sure its going to work.   :rolleyes:

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: pmpsht on March 26, 2009, 11:08:00 AM

Matt, Honda springs or Coilovers?  I'd want to know some more info on that, there has to be something different about them that these spring companies won't cross reference the part #'s.

http://b-gsuspension.com/displayResults.php5 (http://b-gsuspension.com/displayResults.php5)  

I'm working on having these available.  These have been tested by another colleague of mine that runs another business but also owns a Capri    ;)     So like H&R springs, these are another option and B&G have been around a long time.  A 1.4" drop front and rear.  I'll have pricing soon.

Cory

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Rocketman on March 26, 2009, 12:16:00 PM

The information was on Mazda323performance  :(  It was honda coilovers not springs. The strut tubes and travel were similar enough that it worked.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on March 26, 2009, 12:17:00 PM

uwant springs that fit the 89 323 for the non turbo apris, and the gtr for the turbo capris. gtx wll not work as the rear end is different.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Rocketman on March 26, 2009, 02:10:00 PM

I believe the GTR had a different rearend as well. Infact its a BG, a totally different chassis

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on March 26, 2009, 04:57:00 PM

not the 89 from my understanding the 323 turbo and the gtr are the same car different engine setup. the gtx has th different rear end cause of the awd.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: Rocketman on March 27, 2009, 12:19:00 PM

I think you're referring to the 88 323 GT? Its the fwd sedan with an identical suspension setup to ours. It was only made in 88.

The GTR is a BG chassis (91-93) variant of the GTX. Its got a tighter ratio gearbox, much more powerful motor (210hp), and I think better differentials in the AWD system. They didnt have a GTR untill 91 i think.

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: tellerx on August 12, 2009, 04:01:00 AM

So with all tech stuff flying around, what is the prognosis will the HR springs work with the stock struts. Want to lower the car mainly for the look.Also doesn't sound like the 16" wheels is the way to go, saw that clearence photo of some one's car and looked like a tight squeeze

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: CapriTypeR on August 12, 2009, 04:40:00 AM

The Super-Roo has 16" wheels, and I have had no issues.  The roads out here are not the best, either!

--Russ

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: tellerx on August 13, 2009, 06:41:00 PM

Yes i looked at ur Super-Roo and the wheels look to have plenty of clearance. So what is the wheel and tire combo on ur car and do u think that there would not be a clearence problem with ur combo and a set of HR lowering springs.By ur photos an 1 3/4 lower from the HR springs wouldn't really affect the height all that much, what do u think

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: CapriTypeR on August 14, 2009, 06:10:00 AM

I'm running 205/40R16 Kumho Ecsta tires on Enkei wheels. There seems to enough room to run lowering springs. My ClubSprint runs 17" wheels, and the spring perches have been notched to accommodate the lowered stance:

  (http://photos.imageevent.com/roosport/roosport/Clubsprint02.jpg)

  (http://photos.imageevent.com/roosport/roosport/Clubsprint04.jpg)

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: rcicustoms on August 31, 2009, 01:10:00 AM

hey russ... where the hell was that thing at the macg guy???  that CS is bad man...Joe

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: CapriTypeR on August 31, 2009, 01:59:00 AM

It has a few...issues.  It  should make next years MACG, though!

--Russ

Title: Ground-Control Coilovers question.
Post by: STE_6000 on August 31, 2009, 09:42:00 AM

17" have more of a clearance issue then 16s, u could fit 18s if u play it right, but it wouldnt be as wide, or they will stick out from the car, i dont know the specs u'd need, 17s where big enough.