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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Capri N/A 89-94 => Topic started by: spiro on October 21, 2007, 08:26:00 PM

Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: spiro on October 21, 2007, 08:26:00 PM: Okay, so when I use the heater or air con, it barely blows out air, and its neither hot or cold not matter where you set it...

Unplugged the two hoses (entry and exit hoses for the heater core) at the firewall, and did a flush. Stuck a garden hose in both ports, and flushed it good. Rusty water and a little bit of gunk came out. Connected hoses back up.

The Car now has Hot air when you turn the heater on ! Yay! and its like a burning hot. Excellent! So the coolant now is flowing in and out of the heater core properly.

I still cant get icy cold air when I switch to cold and flick the air con on.... its a very mild/moderate cool but definitely not cold like a proper air con....

What could it be do think ?
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: Gus Kelley on October 22, 2007, 06:28:00 AM: Hey Spiro! First thing to check is if the compressor clutch engages. If it does, then check if there is any refrigerant. Generally if the refer. non existant ,the compressor will not come on. If the refrig is low, then it will cycle rapidly. Also i'm having a problem in one my capris now, I found that the doors controlling every thing are not working. Just haven't had time to look into it. Good Luck Gus.
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: spiro on February 24, 2008, 08:42:00 PM: All fixed... it ended up being a fauly relay....

plus he replaced the "receiver drier"
and installed new port adapters for R134A.
Aparently our cars have an old air con and gas system. There is a new standard now.. so he changed it all over.

wierd...

regards,
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: GrooveNerd on February 25, 2008, 11:34:00 AM: Due to the efforts of the enviro-wackos*, the R-12 A/C refrigerant that the 91-93 Capris came with was outlawed as being "environmentally damaging". (Allegedly, this heavier-than-air gas magically rises to the upper reaches of the atmosphere and causes holes in the ozone layer. :rolleyes: ) Therefore, since R-12 is no longer available for sale in the US and most of the world, A/C systems must be retrofitted to the new R-134A refrigerant. More money out of your pocket to protect you from nothing.

*It should also be noted that duPont's patent (and therefore their ability to make $ on all R-12 sold) on R-12 expired the same year it was outlawed, and that the replacement, R-134A was developed and patented by duPont. But I'm certain that this fact would have had no bearing on the product being "banned" at that time...

Marty
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: 1992xr2 on February 25, 2008, 01:08:00 PM: ^^ I lol'd
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: Gus Kelley on February 25, 2008, 03:27:00 PM: Hey XR2! Nothing to LOL----- about. LOL------! Now adays it isn't anything to convert over. Evacuate the system and pump the r134a in and go. When this crap first came out you supposedly had to change compressors and install a new drier and of course the fittings. Several hundred dollars later if nothing came up you A/C. Gus.
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: 1992xr2 on February 26, 2008, 05:31:00 AM: "(Allegedly, this heavier-than-air gas magically rises to the upper reaches of the atmosphere and causes holes in the ozone layer. )"

I was loling at this...
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: GrooveNerd on February 26, 2008, 04:37:00 PM: Quote
"(Allegedly, this heavier-than-air gas magically rises to the upper reaches of the atmosphere and causes holes in the ozone layer. )"

I was loling at this...
No, really, it's *magic*, I tell ya! :D
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: spiro on February 26, 2008, 08:03:00 PM: well throw some of that "magic" this way so my LiL' red beastie can run some 12's aye...

That would be magic for me... (http://graemlins/Oo.gif)
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: Slocs on March 05, 2008, 03:21:00 PM: Spiro, do you mind if I ask how much you paid for the switch to 134a gas.

My 1990 has the original R12, but I suspect that it is low, and the idle switch (the thingo that makes the idle speed increase) doesn't seem to work.

Thanks

Rob
(1990 SA, but Red so it goes faster!, Sydney)
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: 1992xr2 on March 05, 2008, 03:52:00 PM: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2313667534_d4be543d08.jpg?v=0) =free!!!!1
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: Gus Kelley on March 05, 2008, 04:03:00 PM: Hey Slocs! Overhear they just install the 134 fittings and evacuate the system, then pump it full of 134. Adapter kits are sld here in the states for $30-$40 includes a can of 134. Gus
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: spiro on March 06, 2008, 08:57:00 AM: hi Slocs, yeah all you need is new adapters and the gas... so its cheap to convert over. Gus' figures sound about right...

-Flush old air con system
-Fit New port adapters
-Vacuum and re-oil system for R134A
-Re-gas system

I think it would of worked out to be about AU$80-100 bucks... + dryer extra.

But I had to get a new receiver dryer also.

easy to do.....

regards,
Title: Condenser, Compressor or Re-gas ?
Post by: Slocs on March 06, 2008, 02:46:00 PM: Thanks guys. The mech who does the regular service has a mobile guy who'll do the work. I'll let you know how much it ends up.

Regards

Rob