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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Capri N/A 89-94 => Topic started by: tonlaw71 on December 05, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
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Hello again, Fellas!
I know there has been a lot of talk on here about CAIs, but I have been unable to find a "Cold Air Intake for Dummies" post. I have a 91 NA and would like to install an inexpensive CAI.
Could someone post some pics of what needs to be modified (if anything) and an idiot proof (that's me) shopping list of what I need to buy?
I do not have any way to fab anything and I do all my work in the parking lot of an apartment building, so if possible, KISS (keep it simple stupid)
Thanks in advance...
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The NA one is easy....you can make it yourself.
ebay has the filter and adapter for like 10 bucks..then you can just get some 2.5in pipe and couplers to make the rest...
Spectre sells pipes at the car stores as well or online..you can piece something together..i did with my first setup on my turbo
http://www.spectreperformance.com/#HOME (http://www.spectreperformance.com/#HOME)
Stock
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN0623.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN0619.jpg)
My 1st set up with the Spectre
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/Intake2.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/Intake3.jpg)
Final set up using the 2.5in pipes
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1359.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1360.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1362.jpg)
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DAMN That's pretty !
I don't suppose you have a parts list of the stuff you ordered from Spectre do you ?
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Agreed with the above. I'd love to see some shots of where it connects to the compressor as well if you have any. Are you running a stock turbo? A parts list would be so fantastic!
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Yes, a parts list would be great and if anyone has something similar for an NA setup, that would be awesome. I was looking at the Spectre pipes at Advance Auto and they only have 3", I see the 2 1/2" on the Spectre site, guess I can order from there instead. I really have no idea what to get, so specifics would be very helpful.
Thanks again!
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First set up I just went to Autozone and got what I needed..
The Final set up was when I installed the FMIC. Bought the whole kit off Ebay for like $230 Shipped
Stock turbo....
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1362.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1367.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1368.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/gostlrs/XR2/DSCN1369.jpg)
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(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss205/Tatur_salad/DSC03689.jpg)
very basic intake made from sewer couplers from home depot ... worked well for me and now i have an intake made with these 3 parts
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=907&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2 (http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=907&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2)
from turbo to a small 2.5 inch pipe
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=385&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2 (http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=385&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2)
from 2.5 pipe to MAF the 3" is a tight fit on MAF little hard to get on but it will get on
then i am running
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=16&products_id=2016&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2 (http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=16&products_id=2016&osCsid=325f4367f122e98e54e05832d27855e2)
filter
dont have a pic will get one if you need it i like this intake setup very well it lays the MAF flat and puts small mushroom filter far to the right away from engine
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Thanks guys, that all gives me a place to start. I was looking at Advance Auto this morning for all the bits to put this together and they really didn't have much there. I will take a look at Autozone when I get a chance. Still would like to know what pieces are needed for an NA, if possible.
Thanks!
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you just need 2 straight parts and a 90deg bend
the NA one is simple.....
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$26 SPT 9299 -- 2.5 OD 90 Degree Mandrel Bend
$12 SPT 9209 -- 2.5 OD 4 inch pipe
$14 SPT 9219 -- 2.5 OD 6 inch pipe
$17 SPT 9301, 9302, 9306 -- 2.5 OD to 2.5 OD coupler
-(9301-Black, 9302-Red, 9306 Blue)
$16 SPT 81413 -- 3 inch VAF Adapter (Needs to be drilled to fit the capri VAF) For use with cone-style air filters.
$25 SPT 8162, 8166, 8168 -- Shorty Cone Filter(This is what I used it fits without needing to move the coolant reservoir)
-(8162-Red, 8166-Blue, 8168-Silver/Grey)
$161 est.
Might need to measure what straight pipes you'll need though, this was just me pulling out the available parts off their site. Autozone had a large amount of parts available, but A&A should have more yet, if you live in PA.
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THANK YOU!! Trying to convince the wife that this would be a great Christmas present for me!!
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Here is what I would get...
2.5-3.0 elbow $6.55
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-3-90-DEGREE-ELBOW-TURBOCHARGER-T25-T28-TD04-/360324270149?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e5000845 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-3-90-DEGREE-ELBOW-TURBOCHARGER-T25-T28-TD04-/360324270149?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e5000845)
2X 2.5 Couplers $21
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-2-5-Hose-Coupler-Intercooler-Charge-Pipe-Turbo-C5-/350419912016?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5196a78550 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-2-5-Hose-Coupler-Intercooler-Charge-Pipe-Turbo-C5-/350419912016?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5196a78550)
2.5 Straight pipe...cut to fit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aluminum-Intake-Intercooler-Pipe-straight-2-5-63-64mm-/300499827026?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f72f7952 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aluminum-Intake-Intercooler-Pipe-straight-2-5-63-64mm-/300499827026?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f72f7952) $19
3.0 Straight pipe..cut to fit $19
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-OD-Aluminum-Intercooler-Intake-pipe-Straight-18-L-/390267297413?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5addbe5e85 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-OD-Aluminum-Intercooler-Intake-pipe-Straight-18-L-/390267297413?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5addbe5e85)
This will let you keep the intake hose for the Idle Valve. The crank case breather you can leave off or route to it. $9.99
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=9&products_id=1230&osCsid=7d661bb747c1e86c80fbc24a2e9f7701 (http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=9&products_id=1230&osCsid=7d661bb747c1e86c80fbc24a2e9f7701)
Finally measure the VAF and get the last coupler you need to go from the 3in pipe. I can't remember it it was a 3.0 or 3.5
Mine is about half the price of yours and i think you would be much happier with it...
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This is exactly what I needed. Thanks guys. If anyone with a completed NA intake has some pics they could post, I would be most grateful! Not to be a pest, but I haven't done this before and don't want to screw it up.
THANKS!!
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really...it is that simple...
coupler
pipe with holes (will need fittings)
coupler
2.5 straight (cut to desired length)
90 coupler
3.0 straight (cut to desired length
coupler
vaf
new air filter with adapter
brackets to secure
I think most here are happy with just adding a filter and being done..the NA is super slow compared to the turbo
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I hear ya. I may go the same route and just do a filter, but I wanted to explore the option.
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To be honest, I have a turbo capri, all I did was the VAF plate and short cone filter, with some metal line to hold it up. I might consider one of these layouts from the price though.
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putting on a cone makes a nice difference - however replacing that stock plastic intake pipe makes a huge improvement in both power and widens the powerband. I was making kits -
http://www.werbatfik.com/uplimg/jpipe/jpipedisplay.jpg (http://www.werbatfik.com/uplimg/jpipe/jpipedisplay.jpg)
But I lost some of my machining resources. The sewer pipe intakes work pretty well - I'm running one on my 1.8 turbo
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So that it is made clear, increasing the air flow as shown in this thread does little for owners of the XR2 turbo model, correct? This thread really only applies to those with non-turbo XR2 models, is this correct? Does the XR2 benefit much from this improvement from the stock air filter setup?
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Cold Air Intake will increase performance on any car. I would suggest a cold air intake & cat back exhaust to any car that you own. you will get increased performance & gas mileage from just those 2 simple things
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It works even better when you replace the whole exhaust system with 2.25", including the addition of a header. Of course, it is not a true CAI if you don't add the "I." Injection of forced air by way of a scoop or some other device.
I have made a noticable power difference in my NA with these mods. I wouldn't take it down to Kentucky to race Joe and my stock '94 XR2 can beat the pants off it, but there is a slight bit more pep off the line and top end is much improved making it a much better long-haul highway cruiser.
I'm still experimenting with easy ways to get air in there. My latest is to port the front air dam. I'll let you know how that works out, though Russ has told me that true CAIs may force more particulate matter into the system than was ever intended...I'll take that chance.
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cutting a hole where the stock filter box was mounted and running a 2.5in piping to the front fog light opening is all it takes. Cost ya about $30 in parts and 2hrs work.
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Thanks, I've seen that mod, but I got fog lights. I've also seen the one where the guy set his CAI filter in a plastic olive oil bottle in the fender well. I think I want to try something a little different...
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Joe had a post on here before with a great design...
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Thanks, I know about that one too. If porting the lower air dam doesn't do it, that was where I planned to go next.